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Good commentary here.

While I can appreciate the difficulties presented with the totem system, it should probably be clear that a complete and total reworking of the system would not be as helpful as desired. As you mentioned, the totem system will not be left intact, but the adjustments being made are done so gradually. Massive change, while often requested (think shard system, think rage mechanics), is not conducive to solid game design. Slight adjustments to see measurable effects has always been the MO of the devs.

I will look into what observations have been made on the PTRs and try to provide some thoughts from the devs on that, along with your other topics.

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Guys, we will still be making changes to the Shaman, and will certainly consider player feedback, as we always do. That is the reason I created a post soliciting your thoughts concerning the review. The Class Design team has read your feedback at every stage, in addition to watching the changes unfold on the Public Test Realms. The patch is nearing completion, and most aspects have been completely locked-out.

The review brought about many positive changes for the Shaman.

Yes, there are still concerns. We're aware. Every class review there has been cause for players voicing concerns, even with the final iteration of said review. Each review we see players making claims that the review wasn't handled properly for reasons pertaining to x, y, and z. The Design team is fully capable, and aware of everything you've been posting on these boards, either because they are here reading them, or because each region of the globe passes on player feedback, on a very regular basis.

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I'll continue to forward (or compile) everything constructive discussed on these boards to the appropriate members of our design team. We're not completely satisfied with all of the changes made in the Shaman review (we seldom are with first iterations), and it's very likely that we'll be making additional changes in the near future. My last posts simply indicated that I don't think further change will occur before the next major patch goes live.

I'll discuss in greater detail the feedback that's been presented with the class designers in greater details, very soon.

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We realize that many of you feel this tree is lacking raid viability, Badomen. As I've stated before, we definitely wanted to add more to the tree in terms of what it has to offer the "raider". In any case, we've read the feedback and concerns provided on these boards and will be watching this tree very closely once patch 1.11 releases.

Continue to provide your feedback, and we'll continue to make adjustments in problem areas.

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We see requests to improve many Shaman abilities beyond just the Frostbrand Weapon. Such as Healing Stream Totem, Windwall Totem, Stoneskin Totem, and even Stoneclaw Totem. These are just a few off of the top of my head. We're going to be evaluating each of these abilities, along with all of the changes brought about by 1.11. We'll be reading through your feedback and watching players engage in all aspects of the game. Please continue to post your thoughts, and I'll do my best to be consistent in providing some level of detail in the areas that I'm able. Patch 1.11 is bringing about a number of improvements and it's important that we watch them play out to some degree before making additional tweaks.

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I've seen quite a few discussions concerning mana regeneration capability in general. This is something we generally prefer to give to the core caster classes. That isn't to say we don't want to add "staying power" into the Shaman talents, but one that requires the Shaman to place great emphasis on Spirit isn't the right direction as far as we're concerned.

We'll continue to evaluate this aspect of the Shaman, we promise.

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It doesn't look like will have any further Shaman changes implemented for patch 1.12.

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Didn't you read Eyonix's other thread? He doesn't have control "over the content of information" so therefore it's ok for him to lie to us.

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Fine. Fine. Fine. Fine. Fine. 1.11 is over, done, finito, kaput, dead, corpsified, whatever.

1.12 is looming and we're looking at Blizzard making a bad situation even worse with the WF totem nerf. Is there a timeframe on when you'll have an answer on why the change was made? We'd all prefer you leave your computer, walk down the hall, pick up a developer by the collar, and quietly ask, "WHAT ON EARTH WERE YOU THINKING?!" over defending your role in history.

- Ras

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Question 1: what was the issue with WF that it needed yet another nerf?

Question 2: what other shaman issues are the devs addressing in 1.12?

Question 3: are we going to be nerfed even further?

Question 4: are you going to compensate WF nerf by giving us and enhancement in MTT?

Question 5: are you going to compensate the WF nerf by adding some + magic stats to our high-end armour sets?

Please, answer.

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how can you say "no changes" when we're getting our main raid totem for melee (windfury) nerfed.


DO you have any real clue whats going on with shaman or not?

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you keep saying things like "we don't feel the need to compensate" "we feel that *this* is *this*, and you never explain why. WHY WHY WHY? Why do they feel that way tell us WHY. The REASONING behind it. I don't think it's EVER been brought up that shamans and by extension horde raiding was a TOO good and needed a nerf. I honestly can't see how this isn't a joke. Honestly, what the hell? How is this even justifiable.

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So what your saying is....they lied to you? And your playing the wiping boy for Blizz? You take the blame for there BS.....I would have quit my job by now. Maybe your just a phantom......you dont actually exist. Your just a mask used by a blizzard executive

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