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Answers to all your questions, this is a compilation of FAQs, good answers and links that I have seen while lurking on this boards. My hope is that this FAQ will have an answer for 80% of the forum questions being asked.
Index
1.0 Usefull Links
2.0 Noob Helper Script
--2.1 Abbreviations
--2.2 What Race Should I Be?
--2.3 What Professions should I learn?
--2.4 What Build Should I Use?
---(A) The Cookie Cutter Build 21/8/22
---(B) The Seal Fate Build 30/8/13
---(C) The Combat Grinding Build 20/31/0
--2.5 What Weapons and Why?
--2.6 What Talents First?
--2.7 What is Stunlock
--2.8 What are some Combos I can Use?
3.0 Most Popular Builds
4.0 To-Hit FAQ
5.0 Enchantment FAQ
6.0 Hemmo vs SS FAQ
7.0 The AddOns FAQ
--7.1 Most Popular Compliations
--7.2 Most Popular Mods
--7.3 Rogue Related Mods
--7.4 Installation
8.0 Macro List
1.0 Usefull links
Osiris's Guide: Guide to Playing a Rogue v2.0 (my favorite rogue guide, if people read this the forum posts would be cut by 70%)
http://strategy.worldofwar.net/news.php?id=41&page=1
Laenis's Guide: Lock picking FAQ (Everything you need to know about Lock picking)
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=20276&p=1&tmp=1#post20276
Haunted's Guide: Levels 1-60 :: Places to Go (grinding spots)
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-rogue&T=29182&P=1
Grinding Guide (written by me)
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-rogue&T=500421&P=1
Talent Calculator (in case you are feeling adventurous or you are wondering what things do)
http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Talents.View&category_select_id=7
Rogue Skill list (to know what's coming)
http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Skills.List&category_select_id=5
Thottbot (if you do not know what this website is about you are doomed! Along with everything else use it to locate where the mobs are in a map)
http://www.thottbot.com
Rogue Damage Calculator Link: (how much damage does each weapon do)
http://www.geekboys.org/wow/damage.php
Rogue Videos (list of rogue videos)
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=502259&p=1&tmp=1#post502259
Getting the Shanker (Video+Walkthrough
http://www.worldofroguecraft.com/shanker.html
Rogue Loot List (a list of rogue specific loot for high end instances)
http://www.geocities.com/nebk316/RLL/Rogue_Loot_List_v1.html
Rogue Loot List 2 (another loot list)
http://fragstat.com/wow/roguelootlist.html
Rogue Armor Charts (a comprehensive list of armors with resistances and bonuses)
http://shadowpanther.net/wow.htm
2.0 Noob Helper Script by Rod
Rod's Rogue Cliff Notes:
I don't want to sound like a jerk but, try reading the FAQ at the top of the rogue forums page. Also, my forum buddy Chefassassin has compiled quite the FAQ himself called The Ultimate FAQ found here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=518864&p=1&tmp=1#post518864
There is a lot of valuable information in there about EVERYTHING rogue. You will probably want one build for leveling and then pay 1g at level 60 to change to a PvP build. So without further ado, here is WAY more information than you asked for.
2.1 ABREVIATIONS
The following are abbreviations you should become familiar with as you will see them used throughout this guide, WoW forums and even during game play:
DPS=Damage per Second
CP=Combo Point
SS=Sinister Strike
CS=Cheap Shot
KS=Kidney Shot
BS=Back Stab
SnD=Slice and Dice
EA=Expose Armor
CB=Cold Blood
BF=Blade Flurry
AR=Adrenaline Rush
Hemo=Hemorrhage
Prep=Preparation
Premed=Premeditation
DoT=Damage over Time
Rupt=Rupture
Imp. =refers to getting the "improved version" of the skill by use of talent points.
Proc=Just read this as "Activate" as in "I put Cripple Poison on my main hand so it will proc more often"
AI=Artificial Intelligence, or the computer generated thinking of a creature
Mob=Monster using artificial intelligence to fight.
NPC=Non-Player Character
PvP=Player verses Player
PvE=Player versus Enemy (against NPC Mobs only)
PvM=Player versus Monster (against NPC Mobs only)
2.2 WHAT PROFESSIONS SHOULD I LEARN?
First Aid, Cooking and Fishing should ALL be trained as rogues have no other way to heal.
Gathering -- Mining, Herbalism, and Skinning
These are great for selling on the Auction House (AH) for money. You may take two but make sure one of them is Skinning because if you have Mining and Herbalism you cannot search for both on your mini-map at the same time. Herbalism is great for rogues to gather Fadeleaf for vanish and Swiftthistle for cooking Thistle Tea. Skinning is good when coupled with leatherworking to provide you own leather. Mining is good for both Blacksmithing and Engineering.
Trade Skills -- Leatherworking, Alchemy, Engineering, Tailoring, Enchanting, Blacksmithing.
Out of these trade skills there is one you simply SHOULD NOT be choosing; tailoring. You can wear leather so there is no need for cloth and it uses up you cloth you need for bandages. Blacksmithing is a weak choice too for the opposite reason; you cannot use any armor greater than leather so you would only be using it for weapons. Leatherworking at endgame is pretty much useless but great up until then. Enchanting is great as you can farm for weapons as a rogue and disenchant all soulbound items you cannot use but keep in mind that it is a HUGE goldsink early on and requires AH sitting to profit at endgame.. Engineering is the most useful skill because it has all the cool toys that only engineers can use. My personal favorite is alchemy though because if you are buffed up with potions you are able to compete about 2-3 levels higher than not buffed. Alchemy is also great because you will already want to pick up Herbalism to supply yourself with Fadeleaf and Swiftthistle and then you can do something with all those other herbs as well.
Combo choices:
Money: Skinning & Herbalism, Skinning & Mining
Self-Sustaining: Herbalism & Alchemy, Mining & Engineering, Mining & Blacksmithing, Skinning & Leatherworking
Usefulness without regards to money or supply: Engineering & Enchanting
2.3 WHAT RACE SHOULD I BE?
ALLIANCE
Night Elves - Shadowmeld is on a separate timer than stealth and gives you a passive +5 bonus to stealth. 305 possible at Level 60 (makes it effectively like a level 61)
Humans - Perception to find other stealthed rogues, druids, invisible warlock summons or hunter pets.
+5 to Maces & Swords. 305 possible at Level 60 (makes it effectively like a level 61)
Dwarves - Stoneskin clears DoTs, great for a rogue looking to restealth.
Gnomes - Escape Artist clears binds so you can close to melee distance where you're effective.
HORDE
Undead - Will of the Forsaken (WotF) clears fear and charm effects, great against casters. Cannibalize is good for a non-healing class.
Orcs - 25% Passive resistance to stuns. When you're stunned you can't do DPS or your stuns.
Trolls - Beserking is great for Combat specced rogues.
Tauren - HA! I don't think so. Your prey would hear that cowbell around your neck a mile away. Moooo!
Keep in mind that even though Night Elves and Undead may look very appealing, you will pick the same race as 95% of other rogues. If you want to be different, choose Troll or Dwarf.
2.4 WHAT BUILD SHOULD I USE?
First, get to know The Three Talent Trees and each talent is. It might help to use a talent calculator.
This is my favorite: http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Talents.View&category_select_id=7
Or Blizzard's own: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues/talents.html
Assassination - Burst or Frontloaded Damage, Critical Hit Increases and Poison Improvements.
Combat - Sustained Damage and Passive Bonuses and improvements to Open Melee Fighting.
Subtlety - Stealth Improvements, DoTs and Energy Conservation.
Most builds try to utilize two of the three major 21pt talents: Cold Blood, Blade Flurry and Preparation. Other builds try to incorporate a 31pt Talent: Vigor, Adrenaline Rush or Premeditation. With the 31pt talent, be sure to pick up the 21pt talent in that tree as well but be forewarned that grabbing a 31pt talent will limit your flexability and customizability of choosing your talents as they we mostly be in one talent tree. The builds below are fairly common and keep in mind there are variants for all of them and as long as you keep the key talents, are fully customizable. The talent trees are separated with a "/" to read as Assassination/Combat/Subtlety
-Leveling/Grinding Builds: 30/8/13, 20/31/0 and 30/21/0
-PvP Builds: 30/8/13, 21/8/22 aka "the cookie cutter build"
-Stunlocking Builds: 31/2/18, 31/8/12, 21/8/22, 21/3/27
-DoT Build: 25/0/26
-Dodge Build: 0/17/34
-Combat (Swords/Maces) Build: 20/31/0, 21/30/0
-Seal Fate/Combat (Dagger) Build: 30/21/0, 31/8/12
Let's take a look at two of the most popular builds, shall we?
(A)THE COOKIE CUTTER BUILD 21/8/22
Consists of Cold Blood 1/1, Improved Backstab 3/3 and Preparation 1/1 and whatever else you want to fill in the spaces.
Assassination Talents (21 points)
Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Malice - 5/5 points
Murder - 2/2 points
Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Lethality - 5/5 points
Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Improved Instant Poison - 1/5 point (You may put this point anywhere in the assassination tree)
Cold Blood - 1/1 point
Combat Talents (8 points)
Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Improved Gouge - 3/3 points
Improved Backstab - 3/3 points
Subtlety Talents (22 points)
Rapid Concealment or Master of Deception or Camouflage - 5/5 points
Opportunity - 5/5 points
Improved Ambush - 3/3 points
*** Initiative - 4/5 points (May substitute with Rapid Concealment or Master of Deception or Camouflage 4/5 or anything else you wish)
*** Improved Rupture - 3/3 points (May substitute with Imp. Sap 3/3 or anything else you wish)
Preparation - 1/1 point
Improved Cheap Shot - 1/2 point
(B) THE SEAL FATE BUILD - 30/8/13
Consists of Cold Blood 1/1, Seal Fate 5/5 and Improved Backstab 3/3 and whatever else you want to fill in the spaces.
Assassination Talents (30 points)
Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Malice - 5/5 points
*** Remorseless Attacks - 5/5 points -- Place these 5 points anywhere you like. (Imp. KS, Imp. Instant, Imp. EA, Imp. SnD)
Murder - 2/2 points
Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Lethality - 5/5 points
Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Cold Blood - 1/1 point
Seal Fate - 5/5 points
Combat Talents (8 points)
Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Improved Gouge - 3/3 points
Improved Backstab - 3/3 points
Subtlety Talents (13 points)
Rapid Concealment or Master of Deception or Camouflage - 5/5 points
Opportunity - 5/5 points
Improved Ambush - 3/3 points
~~ For the 31/8/12 build, just steal one point from Improved Ambush and put it in Vigor.
(C) THE COMBAT GRINDING BUILD - 20/31/0 (or simply 20/31)
Assassination Talents (20 points)
Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Malice - 5/5 points
Improved Slice and Dice
Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Lethality - 5/5 points
Combat Talents (31 points)
Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Improved Gouge - 3/3 points
Deflection 5/5
Riposte 1/1
Precision 5/5
Dual Wield Specialization 5/5
Blade Flurry 1/1
Sword Specialization or Mace Specialization 5/5
Aggression 3/3
Adrenaline Rush 1/1
Subtlety Talents (0)
none
~~For the 21/30/0 build, just steal one point from Adrenaline Rush and put it in Cold Blood.[ post edited by Chefassassin ]
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