Poster: Shonsu at 1/14/2006 11:03:11 AM PST Subject: Another Mage Bites the Dust :( |
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I like to have a caster, melee, hybrid class to play. Diversity is the spice of life or so they say.
Currently I have a 60 Mage, a 60 rogue, and a 60 Druid. You can see as it was, I had achieved my goal of the 3 class types. However, honestly I don't consider mages viable casters at this point.
Bugs that never get fixed and old ones that always come back (Cone of Cold misfiring or delivering no damage, Cold Snap not working etc..) Not too mention lowest survivabilty in game and nowhere near enough burst damage to overcome other classes base health/healing unless you have ToEp+ZHC.
So basically it means unless you get ToEP + ZHC you will never even be on par with other classes. Not talkign uber-rific. Not talking Pwning everyone with ease. We are talking plain and simple a fair chance against most classes. Right now a non-ToEP+ZHC Mage is the easiest kill for every single class out there and are considered free kills for at least 5 of the classes.
What did I do? I rerolled a priest. They are next on the list and will undoubtedly be made even more uber and seperate them even further from mages. I had a tough choice between that and a warlock, since warlocks right now basically own most other classes and have a fair shot at all classes. but ultimately it boiled down to as a priest you are always in demand for groups.
So Tseric and Devs responsible for Mage development, good luck! You obviously have no clue:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-mage&T=639665&P=1
(See Tseric's Mage Buff aka nerf by increasing survivability of all classes except mages aka spirit buff).
I hope you do go through with it from the priest stanpoint becuase it will make my new priest impossible for mages to kill.
Good luck the rest of you, you're going to need it with the current crop of devs thinking mages are fine when they are the worst off by a long shot of all classes.[ post edited by Shonsu ]
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=641110&p=#post641110 | | | Poster: Tseric at 1/14/2006 12:40:00 PM PST Subject: Re: Another Mage Bites the Dust :( |
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Q u o t e: I like to have a caster, melee, hybrid class to play. Diversity is the spice of life or so they say.
Currently I have a 60 Mage, a 60 rogue, and a 60 Druid. You can see as it was, I had achieved my goal of the 3 class types. However, honestly I don't consider mages viable casters at this point.
Bugs that never get fixed and old ones that always come back (Cone of Cold misfiring or delivering no damage, Cold Snap not working etc..) Not too mention lowest survivabilty in game and nowhere near enough burst damage to overcome other classes base health/healing unless you have ToEp+ZHC.
So basically it means unless you get ToEP + ZHC you will never even be on par with other classes. Not talkign uber-rific. Not talking Pwning everyone with ease. We are talking plain and simple a fair chance against most classes. Right now a non-ToEP+ZHC Mage is the easiest kill for every single class out there and are considered free kills for at least 5 of the classes.
What did I do? I rerolled a priest. They are next on the list and will undoubtedly be made even more uber and seperate them even further from mages. I had a tough choice between that and a warlock, since warlocks right now basically own most other classes and have a fair shot at all classes. but ultimately it boiled down to as a priest you are always in demand for groups.
So Tseric and Devs responsible for Mage development, good luck! You obviously have no clue:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-mage&T=639665&P=1
(See Tseric's Mage Buff aka nerf by increasing survivability of all classes except mages aka spirit buff).
I hope you do go through with it from the priest stanpoint becuase it will make my new priest impossible for mages to kill.
Good luck the rest of you, you're going to need it with the current crop of devs thinking mages are fine when they are the worst off by a long shot of all classes.
So, if I'm reading you right, your argument is that ToEP and ZHC put mages on par with other classes, that the mage class is totally broken and that I or the dev team has no clue about class balance?
Why are you not posting on your mage, but posting on this priest? Just saying it might clear up any credibility issues. You've posted a few times with this character, most comments relating to how I am clueless, but providing no specifics as to how I am really incorrect or misguided.
Q u o t e: ...when they are the worst off by a long shot of all classes.
I have heard this so often, yet I have never seen a disputable or indisputable argument proving this. I consider it hyperbole.
Yes, the bugs pertaining to a class are an issue. They are not left there to diliberately irritate you. They are there because they are complex issues to isolate and we do not yet have a solid fix for them. Nobody likes that fact, but we have to deal with it. That's the reality of the situation.
Survivability - If you are going to measure this purely by HP and Armor quantity (which you seem to be doing) you are missing the point. This would indicate (to me at least) that you might not understand what this class is about.
Maybe you will be happier as a priest. Maybe it will suit your playstyle more. I honestly hope it does. I wouldn't want to see anyone frustrate themselves with a class that doesn't jive with them.
However, if you are going to assert that a class is "the worst off" or "broken", then it shouldn't be difficult to come up with real reasons and facts as to why, should it? Why waste your efforts saying that Blizzard is clueless?
I hope you find what you're looking for and continue to have fun in the game, if not with this class.
I spell emm. ayyy, child. ennn....
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