Poster: Maeby at 7/21/2006 9:03:51 AM PDT
Subject: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallies |
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154421.html
O_o
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:25:01 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie |
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Q u o t e:
o_O
Is this a hoax? 'cos there is no way I am believing this until it is either blued or mainpaged :o
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That said, if this IS real, I hope the noob factor on Draenei shaman would be lower than that of horde shaman ><
And also:
Grace of Air + Blessing of Salvation? o_O
It's all true. ;)
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:25:01 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
o_O
Is this a hoax? 'cos there is no way I am believing this until it is either blued or mainpaged :o
...
That said, if this IS real, I hope the noob factor on Draenei shaman would be lower than that of horde shaman ><
And also:
Grace of Air + Blessing of Salvation? o_O
It's all true. ;)
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:41:25 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie |
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Q u o t e:
If this is true, then this is the biggest cop out I've ever seen in my life.
Bliz Dev#1: Hai you guis! Lez take teh ezmode wai out en give Horde Pallydans!!!
Bliz Dev#2:YAYAAYA! You R genious!
Bliz Dev#3:WHEEE EZMODE FOR BLIZZARD!!
So now what was even the point of introducing faction based class if now both factions can use them? Doesn't that defeat the purpose, of you know, FACTION BASED CLASSES?!
And I find it hard to believe that Blood Elves are now magically Paladins when it was never written any where else before, and that they would still be on side with the Horde, when the FORSAKEN are a part of the Horde? This really won't fix anything in my mind because all it will do is create more bickering between faction classes and how that faction Paladin has this better then the original faction Paladin or how that faction Shaman has this better the the original faction Paladin.
As a wise man said in this topic:
The discussion surrounding the decision to move forward with this change started long before World of Warcraft was even released, Waricelm. Making this change allows us an opportunity to blend all that's associated with this decision into future development.
The fact is, by allowing for this particular change we will be afforded the opportunity to open up many more options for both the Shaman and Paladin -- while preseverving the distinction between the two. We feel strongly that there is much more to gain by this route than there is from the flavor generated by keeping a class unique to a faction.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:55:33 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie |
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Q u o t e:
You severly limit end game options for Shamans. Why should raids bother with bringing anything more than a windfury bot, when they can bring paladins.
First of all, we plan to allow most of the Shaman and Paladin buff effects to stack, with a few exceptions of course. This means that both will be extremely useful in regards to improving the potential power level of those around them. Beyond this, you're only thinking in current "WoW" terms and seem to only be digesting current end-game. When the Burning Crusade releases all classes will have access to new spells, talents and abilities, which will be taken advantage of (and play a large part in) grouping/raiding in the expansion's end-game.
It's also important to note that moving forward, we'll be able to design our raid and dungeon encounters to specifically draw out the strengths of each of these classes, whereas now we actually take measures to prevent an encounter from being too beneficial to only one of the classes.
I'd also like to mention that beyond raiding, we think it will be exciting for players that feel strong allegiance to one specific faction to have access to a class that has seemed unavailable to them.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 10:12:51 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie |
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Q u o t e:
Another concern this adds to my end game balance issues is how is fear ward AND tremor totem going to be a good thing?
GG
Those abilities are completely and utterly useless if we don't place fear on a mob. We've yet to unveil what our end-game content will be like at level 70. You just need to be patient, and try not to allow your own speculation to concern you.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:25:01 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
o_O
Is this a hoax? 'cos there is no way I am believing this until it is either blued or mainpaged :o
...
That said, if this IS real, I hope the noob factor on Draenei shaman would be lower than that of horde shaman ><
And also:
Grace of Air + Blessing of Salvation? o_O
It's all true. ;)
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:41:25 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
If this is true, then this is the biggest cop out I've ever seen in my life.
Bliz Dev#1: Hai you guis! Lez take teh ezmode wai out en give Horde Pallydans!!!
Bliz Dev#2:YAYAAYA! You R genious!
Bliz Dev#3:WHEEE EZMODE FOR BLIZZARD!!
So now what was even the point of introducing faction based class if now both factions can use them? Doesn't that defeat the purpose, of you know, FACTION BASED CLASSES?!
And I find it hard to believe that Blood Elves are now magically Paladins when it was never written any where else before, and that they would still be on side with the Horde, when the FORSAKEN are a part of the Horde? This really won't fix anything in my mind because all it will do is create more bickering between faction classes and how that faction Paladin has this better then the original faction Paladin or how that faction Shaman has this better the the original faction Paladin.
As a wise man said in this topic:
The discussion surrounding the decision to move forward with this change started long before World of Warcraft was even released, Waricelm. Making this change allows us an opportunity to blend all that's associated with this decision into future development.
The fact is, by allowing for this particular change we will be afforded the opportunity to open up many more options for both the Shaman and Paladin -- while preseverving the distinction between the two. We feel strongly that there is much more to gain by this route than there is from the flavor generated by keeping a class unique to a faction.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:55:33 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
You severly limit end game options for Shamans. Why should raids bother with bringing anything more than a windfury bot, when they can bring paladins.
First of all, we plan to allow most of the Shaman and Paladin buff effects to stack, with a few exceptions of course. This means that both will be extremely useful in regards to improving the potential power level of those around them. Beyond this, you're only thinking in current "WoW" terms and seem to only be digesting current end-game. When the Burning Crusade releases all classes will have access to new spells, talents and abilities, which will be taken advantage of (and play a large part in) grouping/raiding in the expansion's end-game.
It's also important to note that moving forward, we'll be able to design our raid and dungeon encounters to specifically draw out the strengths of each of these classes, whereas now we actually take measures to prevent an encounter from being too beneficial to only one of the classes.
I'd also like to mention that beyond raiding, we think it will be exciting for players that feel strong allegiance to one specific faction to have access to a class that has seemed unavailable to them.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:25:01 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
o_O
Is this a hoax? 'cos there is no way I am believing this until it is either blued or mainpaged :o
...
That said, if this IS real, I hope the noob factor on Draenei shaman would be lower than that of horde shaman ><
And also:
Grace of Air + Blessing of Salvation? o_O
It's all true. ;)
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:41:25 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
If this is true, then this is the biggest cop out I've ever seen in my life.
Bliz Dev#1: Hai you guis! Lez take teh ezmode wai out en give Horde Pallydans!!!
Bliz Dev#2:YAYAAYA! You R genious!
Bliz Dev#3:WHEEE EZMODE FOR BLIZZARD!!
So now what was even the point of introducing faction based class if now both factions can use them? Doesn't that defeat the purpose, of you know, FACTION BASED CLASSES?!
And I find it hard to believe that Blood Elves are now magically Paladins when it was never written any where else before, and that they would still be on side with the Horde, when the FORSAKEN are a part of the Horde? This really won't fix anything in my mind because all it will do is create more bickering between faction classes and how that faction Paladin has this better then the original faction Paladin or how that faction Shaman has this better the the original faction Paladin.
As a wise man said in this topic:
The discussion surrounding the decision to move forward with this change started long before World of Warcraft was even released, Waricelm. Making this change allows us an opportunity to blend all that's associated with this decision into future development.
The fact is, by allowing for this particular change we will be afforded the opportunity to open up many more options for both the Shaman and Paladin -- while preseverving the distinction between the two. We feel strongly that there is much more to gain by this route than there is from the flavor generated by keeping a class unique to a faction.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:55:33 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
You severly limit end game options for Shamans. Why should raids bother with bringing anything more than a windfury bot, when they can bring paladins.
First of all, we plan to allow most of the Shaman and Paladin buff effects to stack, with a few exceptions of course. This means that both will be extremely useful in regards to improving the potential power level of those around them. Beyond this, you're only thinking in current "WoW" terms and seem to only be digesting current end-game. When the Burning Crusade releases all classes will have access to new spells, talents and abilities, which will be taken advantage of (and play a large part in) grouping/raiding in the expansion's end-game.
It's also important to note that moving forward, we'll be able to design our raid and dungeon encounters to specifically draw out the strengths of each of these classes, whereas now we actually take measures to prevent an encounter from being too beneficial to only one of the classes.
I'd also like to mention that beyond raiding, we think it will be exciting for players that feel strong allegiance to one specific faction to have access to a class that has seemed unavailable to them.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 10:12:51 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Another concern this adds to my end game balance issues is how is fear ward AND tremor totem going to be a good thing?
GG
Those abilities are completely and utterly useless if we don't place fear on a mob. We've yet to unveil what our end-game content will be like at level 70. You just need to be patient, and try not to allow your own speculation to concern you.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:25:01 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
o_O
Is this a hoax? 'cos there is no way I am believing this until it is either blued or mainpaged :o
...
That said, if this IS real, I hope the noob factor on Draenei shaman would be lower than that of horde shaman ><
And also:
Grace of Air + Blessing of Salvation? o_O
It's all true. ;)
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:41:25 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
If this is true, then this is the biggest cop out I've ever seen in my life.
Bliz Dev#1: Hai you guis! Lez take teh ezmode wai out en give Horde Pallydans!!!
Bliz Dev#2:YAYAAYA! You R genious!
Bliz Dev#3:WHEEE EZMODE FOR BLIZZARD!!
So now what was even the point of introducing faction based class if now both factions can use them? Doesn't that defeat the purpose, of you know, FACTION BASED CLASSES?!
And I find it hard to believe that Blood Elves are now magically Paladins when it was never written any where else before, and that they would still be on side with the Horde, when the FORSAKEN are a part of the Horde? This really won't fix anything in my mind because all it will do is create more bickering between faction classes and how that faction Paladin has this better then the original faction Paladin or how that faction Shaman has this better the the original faction Paladin.
As a wise man said in this topic:
The discussion surrounding the decision to move forward with this change started long before World of Warcraft was even released, Waricelm. Making this change allows us an opportunity to blend all that's associated with this decision into future development.
The fact is, by allowing for this particular change we will be afforded the opportunity to open up many more options for both the Shaman and Paladin -- while preseverving the distinction between the two. We feel strongly that there is much more to gain by this route than there is from the flavor generated by keeping a class unique to a faction.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 9:55:33 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
You severly limit end game options for Shamans. Why should raids bother with bringing anything more than a windfury bot, when they can bring paladins.
First of all, we plan to allow most of the Shaman and Paladin buff effects to stack, with a few exceptions of course. This means that both will be extremely useful in regards to improving the potential power level of those around them. Beyond this, you're only thinking in current "WoW" terms and seem to only be digesting current end-game. When the Burning Crusade releases all classes will have access to new spells, talents and abilities, which will be taken advantage of (and play a large part in) grouping/raiding in the expansion's end-game.
It's also important to note that moving forward, we'll be able to design our raid and dungeon encounters to specifically draw out the strengths of each of these classes, whereas now we actually take measures to prevent an encounter from being too beneficial to only one of the classes.
I'd also like to mention that beyond raiding, we think it will be exciting for players that feel strong allegiance to one specific faction to have access to a class that has seemed unavailable to them.
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Poster: Eyonix at 7/21/2006 10:12:51 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Wow, Draenei Shamans and Blood Elf Pallie *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Another concern this adds to my end game balance issues is how is fear ward AND tremor totem going to be a good thing?
GG
Those abilities are completely and utterly useless if we don't place fear on a mob. We've yet to unveil what our end-game content will be like at level 70. You just need to be patient, and try not to allow your own speculation to concern you.
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