Poster: Alois at 1/5/2006 10:14:58 AM PST
Subject: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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W/o being a snob. [ post edited by Alois ]
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Poster: Eyonix at 1/5/2006 11:03:22 AM PST
Subject: Re: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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As a Priest, I personally don't like when I'm asked to heal someone. The only thing I'm doing in a dungeon or raid is staring at everyone's life, and even if I'm not in the process of casting a heal, I'm still in "heal mode", allowing my mana regen to tick, moderating my aggro generation, and gauging the speed at which damage is being distributed amongst my group.
If someone is not receiving a heal in my party, I either couldn't, or chose not to because doing so wasn't optimal. Someone shouting, "Priest heal", to me, is the equivalent of me shouting at a Warrior already engaged in-combat with an enemy to attack.
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Poster: Eyonix at 1/5/2006 11:20:49 AM PST
Subject: Re: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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I don't heal rogues/hunters/pallys ever. If you pull aggro you die learn2play please. If the warrior sucks, or your offtanking, of course ill heal you, but otherwise you are ON YOUR OWN.
Please, just stay in cat form. ;)
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Poster: Eyonix at 1/5/2006 11:59:40 AM PST
Subject: Re: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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Sounds like such a fun class to play.
Staring at Bars.
Thus far, it's the class I've enjoyed playing the most. While my eyes might be focused at the life bars on my screen, I'm processing much more than the remaining hit-points of each player in my group. It's a challenge to play a support character well, and one that isn't going to interest everyone.
You're ignoring much of what you can contribute in supporting a group, and how well you can improve personal survivability in a dozen-plus situations by breaking the art of healing down to "staring at bars".
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Poster: Eyonix at 1/5/2006 12:21:59 PM PST
Subject: Re: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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I agree but you also have to understand that there is some people that play the priest class that are not the brightest bunch.
Also the OP might of ment asking the Priest to heal period... you have some people coming into an instance thinking they are going to dps in shadow form or only heal themselves.
I'm only chiming in with my thoughts on the matter. I'm not stating that "no one should ask their Priest to heal", nor am I stating that there is necessarily a right or wrong way to behave in this regard. I'm simply stating that, I personally don't like to be asked or told to heal someone, and neither does any other Priest I've known.
Your comment that some people playing priests "are not the brightest bunch", in my opnion is a seperate issue, and should be handled in the same manner that you'd handle any party member that was doing a poor job, which wouldn't be resolved by asking for a "heal", in the middle of combat.
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Poster: Eyonix at 1/5/2006 12:31:44 PM PST
Subject: Re: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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i'll remember that when you got 3 mobs on you...
as a warrior, if im not tanking a mob its because... it wasnt the optimal time for me to pull aggro...
rofl
I believe you misunderstood, or are just trolling. My number one priority is in keeping my group alive, and sometimes that involves tough decisions, and in some cases single incident deaths. In example, if I have enough mana for one heal, we're close to defeating a boss in a dungeon but all near death and the Warrior has temporarily lost control of the aggro, it may be optimal for me to refrain from healing those taking damage in order to regen enough mana so that I can heal the Warrior, two or three times to defeat the encounter.
I can think of dozens of similar examples. It's not always optimal to heal a particular party member at a particular moment in time.
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Poster: Eyonix at 1/5/2006 12:47:36 PM PST
Subject: Re: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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I don't heal people who pull aggro, or paladins who should never have aggro, (unless off tanking as stated above.)
I will heal a player, regardless of the reason that they need a heal if I'm able and feel that doing so will benefit the situation, and ultimately the outcome. People pull aggro, mistakes are made, my job is to compensate for group failures as gracefully and efficient as possible.
I know I've made mistakes, and on a long enough time line, will make more. I also know that there have been occasions where I pulled aggro with my heals, more than I should've. I'd be sad if those responsible for healing me during a time when I mistakenly over-healed, chose not to because they felt that I shouldn't have stolen the aggro in the first place.
My goal isn't to be playing with a group of people that are always able to perform flawlessly. It's to play with people that care, and try. I simply do my best given the mechanics available to my class.
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Poster: Eyonix at 1/5/2006 12:52:37 PM PST
Subject: Re: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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Even if they say "OMFG JUST HAEL ME HEALBOT!1"
You must be some kind of WoW saint.
I'd leave the group if that continued, but I wouldn't sabotage the encounter by not healing that player if doing so allowed us to survive. It has nothing to do with being a "saint", it has to do with personal motivation in playing a massively multiplayer online game.
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Poster: Eyonix at 1/5/2006 1:13:54 PM PST
Subject: Re: How do u ask a priest to heal |
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Don't quote me as saying "staring at bars" it's what you stated you spent your time doing in a raid, "staring at lifebars". Frankly, I don't agree this is an extremely fun time.
I've healed through every instance including all of BWL. There is no way of improving personnal survivability via staring at life bars. I find being a better healer and learning how to survive is best done in the BG's. Try avoiding the assist trains or a solo warrior with Ask'handi 2 shotting you. BWL and the rest are neat looking and fun when the loot drops but it's not extremely hard, lets face it.
But as for the OP -
I've been in Durotar(where Horde Duels) and had tells sent to me by shaman stating "heal".
If you're in a raid or a grouped instance and that person is yelling out "Heal!" then it's safe to say he is just an immature person and I really wouldnt make a big deal about it. You should be healing and if you werent able to that person should know why.
I rarely solo que in Bg's unless I'm waiting for a spot in one of two- three groups I usually run with. But when I do I always have to laugh at the rogue or mages yelling at me to heal - Meanwhile i have 2 rogues a warrior or warlock on me. It's like why dont you stun him, or sheep, or hamstring, or whatever....always funny.
I quoted what you had broken my entire statement into, Hogweed. It was appropriate, given your response.
I've also healed through every instance in this game including all of Blackwing Lair. You can increase personal survivability by gauging aggro, watching the environment, paying attention to encounter phases, reading the messages which appear in chat, and listening to what's being stated over voice chat, to name a few. My point is, I do much more than "stare at life bars", and I placed the phrase in quotes because you twisted my message to state such.
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