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Poster: Rasulos at 1/4/2006 2:59:42 PM PST
Subject: Blue response requested: Bring back World PVP
   This is a quote from the PVP forum:

Q u o t e:
Bring back world pvp.

Battlegrounds is nice... but by and large the only way to find a fight at the end game is in battlegrounds. And yes, playing the same battleground over and over and over and over is not as entertaining as it sounds.

There are a few problems that need to be adressed to get World PvP back into action.

First and foremost - DK's need to be abandoned. You cannot run into a town or village with some raid buddies without the civs just shouting for help, and having an endless supply of guards spawn because no one has the guts to murder a civ. That been said, there are some civs in the game who actually attack you! This is a bug im sure, but no one is going to try to disprove it because they dont wanna risk the DK. One example is an npc in Astranaar in Ashenvale. He is a civ and attacks on sight.
As for the arguement that killing civs can be considered a form of griefing. You damn right it is! If a group of people assault a city or a town, and they murder your precious mushroom vendor, then you can wait the 5 mins for him to respawn. Remember, this is a war between the horde and the alliance. The point being -- if some people manage to overthrow a town, they should be able to exterminate the population. It is rather disatisfying rushing a town, overpowing the guards, only to stand in the middle of the town surrounded by fruit vendors screaming for help. You know that you cant kill them.

DK's are dissapointing, and a bane to WoW.

Secondly - there needs to be some incentive to haul your arse out of Battlegrounds. The only way to earn cont points other than killing the other faction is to take out their general in either IF or Org. This is not sufficient. There needs to be objectives littered about the land (See DaoC).

You could make each village in the game "assaultable". Place a flag in the middle (like the ones you find in AB). A member of the other team can come up and take down the flag, and must hold the flag for 15 minutes (or whatever you think is long enough). The opposing team can fly in and try to defend it. If the attacking team successfully hold the point then they have "assaulted" the village successfully. Depending on the size of the village and the availale defence, cont points will be rewarded to anyone who participated (or touched the flag... or something). However, if the defending team takes the flag back -- fights the people out of the town, and puts the flag back up for 15 mins (or whatever) they have successfully defended, and recieve "successful defending" cont points.

Something along these lines would get people out into the world and actually explore its rich environments in detail. You could additionally have neutral points like towers and such that can be fought over for control.

Of course, weapons, armour and items could be rewarded like they are in BG's for active participation.

In the high end game, the only places most people will see are instances, the route to get to the instance, BG's and their home town. Players dont have ANY REASON WHAT SO EVER to venture from these places.

World PvP is one of the main reasons I signed up to play WoW, and it frustrates me that this concept has been substituted by an arguably inferior battleground system, and that god forsaken DK system.

I would just like to know if Bliz is planning to do anything about this, and if they could shed some light on the matter. Knowing that getting a blue response is as likely as being crushed by a vending machine (1 person every month), what are your thoughts and feelings on encouraging World PvP?

Bring Back World PvP.

PVPing till I die or go crazy.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6530914&p=#post6530914
 
Poster: Eyonix at 1/4/2006 3:10:05 PM PST
Subject: Re: Blue response requested: Bring back World PVP
   Although I don't have any details to provide at this particular moment in time, I can assure you that design plans are in-motion to bring life back into outdoor player vs. player combat. We realize that both small skirmishes and large raids can be fun in the non-instanced outside world, and do plan to encourage such in the future.

My suggestion to implement giant dark iron hamster balls for players to roll around in for purposes of outdoor combat was shot down by designers, unfortunately.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6530914&p=#post6531035

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