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Poster: Halbue at 10/13/2005 5:25:00 PM PDT
Subject: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   PREPARE TO BE CRUSHED UNDER MY IMMENSE KNOWLAGE OF WC BWHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

respond so i know u are listening and i shall begine the MATCH!!!!
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 5:42:29 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   What was the full name -- with title -- of the leader of the Dragonmaw clan?

To which particular member of the Burning Legion were Doomguards originally loyal?

What two weapons are considered the Tuskarr's primary tools of battle?

How did Dragonspawn come to be?

If you spoke soothingly to a Hippogryph in Darnassian, what noise would it probably make in return?
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 5:47:01 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
Who were Cenarious's parents?

(easy question if you read war of the ancients)


Pfft, Elune and Malorne. Ysera was his surrogate mother. ;) In Tauren lore, the names are Mu'sha and Apa'ro.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 5:52:45 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   That's two and a half questions, but all right.

Eitrigg is an Orc that served in the First and Second Wars with distinction. After Gul'dan's betrayal, he fled into the wilderness. He was discovered many years later in a ruined watchtower by a paladin named Tirion Fordring. While they fought as enemies, Eitrigg saved Tirion's life by pulling him clear as the watchtower collapsed.

This did not prevent his capture, unfortunately, and was led to the Human holding of Stratholme. Tirion repaid the life debt by intervening before his death and setting him free.

He found his way to his people of old, and learned that the Orcs returned to their shamanistic ways. He currently stands in Thrall's chamber, serving as an advisor.

EDIT: Keep in mind that I do have other things to do besides this little challenge. Keep your woollies on. ;)

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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 5:53:25 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
Here's one for you Cay. WHO is the Earthmother? Not just her relation to the Tauren, but who she really is. bet you can't answer THAT.


There are tales that the Earthmother just may be Eonar... ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 5:58:59 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
Also as a bonus question!

who used the two handed axe killmaim before casting it into the sea, what did he or she use it for and who picked it up after it was cast into the ocean!


Delthorin. He used the axe to kill his love, Allurana, and her lover (she had been cheating on him, you see), then cast it into the sea. It was then retrieved from the waters by the Sea King of the Echo Isles (who was later slain by Rexxar).

EDIT: Halbue -- PATIENCE, please. I have other things to do besides this, as I said. I will answer your questions -- and no one else's, folks, this is a duel after all -- but I have other duties to attend to as well.

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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:03:50 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   Meric was a knight of Lordaeron, thus firmly in the camp of the Alliance. He served under Lord Duncan Senturus of the Silver Hand, and was the one who escorted Rhonin to his sleeping chambers.

He also had a moustache.

I have now answered four of your questions whereas you have answered one of mine. I await your answers as well.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:07:23 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
Here's a question:

Why is the term "Earth" in the WoW vocabulary such as "Earthmother" and "Earthbind totem", etc...when none of Warcraft takes place on the planet Earth which originated the term "Earth" when referring to nature and the ground upon which we stand.


Earth. Sod. Loam. Dirt. Earth is more than a term for a planet. All things begin and return to the soil, thus making the Earthmother a perfectly appropriate name.

In addition, no one on Azeroth speaks English, either. Earth is a term in English we know well and is probably the best translation in English from Common/Orcish/Gnomish/Trollish/Dwarvish/Gutterspeak/Darnassian/Taurahe.

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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 5:42:29 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!! *edited post*
   What was the full name -- with title -- of the leader of the Dragonmaw clan?

To which particular member of the Burning Legion were Doomguards originally loyal?

What two weapons are considered the Tuskarr's primary tools of battle?

How did Dragonspawn come to be?

If you spoke soothingly to a Hippogryph in Darnassian, what noise would it probably make in return?

EDIT: This is for my challenger. Let's let him answer them first, hm? :)

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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:12:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
some one answered the questions earlier


please present new ones as it would not be fair with the answeres right htere


I've deleted all the people who seriously answered those five (and please, no one else post answers). Surely you can answer for yourself -- you have no knowledge of whether those people were correct, and hey, easy points for you, right? ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:15:24 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
Thats not nice Cay =( lol.

May I ask, if you have the time, you give me some questions? Kind of sad to have my answers deleted.


This is a duel at the moment, but eventually, perhaps. ;) Sorry I deleted your post, but y'know, interest of fairness and all that.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:16:22 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   Correct on both counts, Halbue, Dragonspawn (your post was accidentally moderated) and Tuskarr. Less eloquent than I'd like, but that's all right. ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:19:09 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   And if you'd like a new question... name the two joint-liaisons of Archimonde who stayed behind in the Twisting Nether during the last invasion of Azeroth. Also, I'd like you to include their race, and their current living or dead status. :)

(This is for Halbue, by the by.)
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:35:32 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
i will admit i dont know the hippogryph(hate the damn things) one but i will guess it makes a chortling noise.


now i shall present 2 more questions then i shall let u ask

who is garona? how did she come to be? what is her use among orc clans? why is she and outcast? and what food was she very fond of? ;P

also what was filson and how did he die


...you're posting as a Night Elf and you hate Hippogryphs? Tch. Incorrect, sir -- the Hippogryph would speak Darnassian right back to you, as they are beasts as sentient as any of the living races and can speak the Night Elves' language quite fluently.

I do believe this settles the duel, hm? EDIT: Now that the joint-liaison question has also not been answered to my satisfaction, that clinches the deal. I'm done, the clear victor. ;)

Regardless...

Garona was a Half-Orc -- some say she was Half-Human, others Half-Draenei (the lore has argued somewhat on this point). In Warcraft 1 lore, however, which I suppose you're referring to, she was the product of an orc soldier ravaging a captured human female.

Garona was a talented spy for the Shadow Council; she was inducted into the Stormreaver Clan, and was eventually made Gul'dan's personal assassin, as well as Chief Interpreter of the Council. She was outcast due to her heritage; they weren't fond of half-bloods. Food, I'll get back to you on. :P

Filson was a rat in the Stratholme zoo, a fond almost-pet of the zookeepers, who perished from an explosion blast during Arthas's purging of the city. On his wee little rat-corpse was an Amulet of Evasion, his secret to evading the traps all his life.

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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:40:22 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
very well i submit :P your the victor HOWEVER! i agree WE MUST! make a stump ay thread and sticky it u can answer it annually and if we finnally stump u that person should be announced on the main page as a cool guy


I don't have that sort of control and wouldn't post "Hey, this guy on the forums knows more lore than a Community Manager" on the front page of Worldofwarcraft.com anyway. In addition, this sort of thing does take a lot of my concentration and I don't want to neglect the forums. Sorry, no Stump Cay thread. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:45:57 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   Incidentally, the joint-liaisons of Archimonde were Mephistroth and Anetheron. Anetheron joined Archimonde on Azeroth once the portal was open, but Mephistroth stayed behind -- and by extension, he stayed alive. ;) Anetheron perished after Tichondrius in the war. They were both Nathrezim.

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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 6:52:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
Is it safe to assume this is in the rp books? If so then as far as I understand you once made a post about high elves that, as far as I know, contridicted the rpg book's page on High Elves.


I'm aware there's disagreement there, and it isn't the first time. :) There's some argument on the subject, what with the Blood Elves and all. I'd suggest laying the matter to rest for now. You never know what will develop. :)
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 7:03:23 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   Again, Halbue, my Garona lore was based on the Warcraft 1 statements, as I mentioned. The lore has argued in the past about her lineage.

It's rather funny, actually -- that bit you just copied and pasted is directly from an older source, but "Azeroth" and "Human" were replaced by "Draenor" and "Draenei" -- which doesn't make much sense, since Orcs didn't "occupy" Draenor as they did Azeroth. Draenor was their homeland! :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 7:09:55 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
actually my word pad is made up of many copy and past versions of may characters of wow all classified in to files under that persons name i get them from many websites


Websites can be incorrect. As I stated, I've seen that many times -- but normally it has "human" and "Azeroth" there. That's the original version. You have a modified version that's half-updated to include the later assumption regarding Garona's heritage.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 7:12:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
heres a question for u cay its nto a duel question but a fair one is thier ANYTHING about anyone in wow lore u dont know that you would like to know if so what? i just wanna know if the immense knowlage of caydiem is truly unfathomable


If I didn't know something regarding lore, I probably wouldn't admit to it, since I can always learn. ;) I'm not perfect, though, and have never claimed to be.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 7:14:41 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
   Idriel, m'darling, I leave it to you to discern what you feel is correct. Historians have a way of putting their own agendas into the telling, and Azeroth is not immune. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/13/2005 7:15:42 PM PDT
Subject: Re: CAYDIEM! i challenge u to a lore duel!!!!
  

Q u o t e:
Just a quick one for you then Caydiem - do you know you Xaxas was another name for, and in which language?


Deathwing/Neltharion; the Elves called him thus. ;)
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