Poster: Sachsen at 9/9/2005 7:02:58 PM PDT
Subject: Replace eyonix with someone knowledgeable |
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As a level 60 mage player, I have watched one of the most enjoyable classes in WoW, the mage, get utterly destroyed by developer incompetence and bad recommendation by people such as Eyonix. Your antiquated views of mage balance, your rude comments concerning "other strategies" against warlocks, and your continual claims that mages are balanced and classes such as the warrior are too( which anyone with half of a brain knows they are extremely overpowered at the moment) really is the functional reason behind veteran mage players starting new characters.
Key mage abilities which previously made the class enjoyable have been either reduced in effectiveness (such as polymorph, the entire frost line and fire damage due to resists), removed from the game( such as invisibility) or just ignored (antiquated and unfair mage talent tree allocation). You can say what you like as a Blizzard employee, but the mage class is the ONLY class that had its entire class role changed after people chose it for single target dps. This unclear new role has been changed on the boards from the manual to effectively describe the mage class as a water vendor with teleportation abilities as if to deliberately spit in the face of some of Blizzards most valued and loyal customers. Your claims that mages are balanced are not only a slap in the face to the entire mage community, but a continual sign of your utter incompetence and your recalcitrant nature in dealing with incredibly obvious class breaking problems.
I really dont have any sympathy for you, Eyonix. If you receive rude comments from players on these boards, especially mages, you deserve it. You are, in my opinion, one of the primary catalysts for the current dismal state of the mage class. You have no clue about the functionality of the class, and your repeated lack of attention to the mage class as well as your recommendations to the developers about mages being fine is not only a clear sign of your complete and overwhelming ignorance in the realm of class balance but your continual stubborness to admit an obvious and looming problem. Good luck to you if you pursue another career option.
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4823531&p=#post4823531 | | | Poster: Caydiem at 9/9/2005 7:24:33 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Replace eyonix with someone knowledgeable |
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The Mage class is indeed a damage-dealing class. Any confusion about your role is self-inflicted -- the class role is stated on the Mage page for all to see.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage.html
Eyonix is simply a conduit of your feedback to the development staff. I've heard these talks, and he certainly hasn't disregarded what players are saying in any capacity. He does let the developers know how you feel...
...but the developers are allowed to make decisions based on what they feel is best for the game as a whole.
Listening does not necessarily equate to changing the class to fit your perfect dream of what a Mage should be. Your feedback has been heard, and changes have been implemented because of it.
There are some bugs, yes, and they are slated to be fixed; they're not being ignored. According to the developers, the Mage is one of the most complete classes in the game at the moment -- and this is from designers who both made and play the class. They're not relying solely on Eyonix to tell them what you're saying, and Eyonix isn't the only one who relays Mage feedback.
In short -- they've heard what you have to say, but hearing it does not mean they will bow to your wishes. They do what they feel is best for the game. Your insults regarding the Blizzard staff and your crossposting for this to receive more views are both against policy, and I warn you against breaching forum rules further.
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4823531&p=#post4823729 | Poster: Caydiem at 9/9/2005 7:31:11 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Replace eyonix with someone knowledgeable |
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Q u o t e:
Where's Damage Dealing, Caydiem?
I was talking about the Class Role down below that, actually, thanks. The Rogue page doesn't say they do damage in the Strengths area, either. :P
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4823531&p=#post4823812 | Poster: Caydiem at 9/10/2005 11:25:17 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Replace eyonix with someone knowledgeable |
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Q u o t e:
Oh please, Cay stop defending his ass, If he cared about anything said in this post HE would of made that post and not you. Its his job to tell us what the devs think about our class. He NEVER told us that we were complete, EVER.
This may surprise you, but we don't work 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Eyonix was off yesterday, and while he did post here and there, he was doing so from home in what threads he could.
So no, he shouldn't have posted in here yesterday, and honestly I don't feel he should have to come here and defend himself against these misconceptions of his job. It's easier if a third party does it.
So, just to clear it up:
Eyonix is not the Mage representative.
Eyonix is not the Warlock representative.
Class representatives do not exist.
It is not his job and his job alone to convey what the developers think about your class if there's information to give; that can fall to any of us. And yes, he did tell you that the developers were more or less happy with the current design standing of the Mage some time ago. (Not including bugs, that is, which are being fixed.)
Those of you who complain about the lack of "damage dealing" in the Strengths section upon looking at the Mage page should check the Rogue page, too.
The strengths are not there to define the class. When I posted that link -- and I did specify this in my original post, too -- I stated that the Class Role was on that page for all to see. And it is.
I am sorry if you created your Mage and found it to be something other than what you wanted it to be. They are still quite powerful damage dealers with good CC and decent utility. An MMOG will evolve with the game, but the core of the Mage has not changed. I don't have the manual at home, where I currently am, but I shall happily make a comparison between that description and the Mage as it currently stands later on.
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4823531&p=#post4830209 | Poster: Caydiem at 9/10/2005 11:44:32 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Replace eyonix with someone knowledgeable |
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Procs that trigger from casting spells are not as simple as procs that trigger from swinging a weapon. The mechanics are different, and I'm unsure if we have the support for it right now.
The developers are aware of the damage scaling concern and are certainly working on alleviating the problem, but I have no specifics for you.
I'm unsure about the statistics issue, and as it is a Saturday I can't ask them. :P
The developers already made a significant change to resist rates just recently that was beneficial to just about everyone.
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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