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Poster: Loko at 8/25/2005 6:08:43 PM PDT
Subject: What is Magtheridon
   I think each realm has lore backing it up, i was wondering what Magtheridon's was.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:13:02 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
   Magtheridon was a Pit Lord who squatted upon a large portion of Outland, tormenting the Draenei there and coaxing more and more demonkind through the destructive portals therein.

The Laughing Skull clan was a clan of Orcs led by Mogor the Ogre around the time that Durotan, Thrall's father, led the Frostwolf clan; they had a reputation among the clans of being treacherous.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:17:55 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
What's Bleeding Hollow then?


Another clan of the Horde around the same time period. In truth, they earned many accolades in the second war and evaded capture by the Alliance, escaping back to their corrupted homeland of Draenor for a time. The Bleeding Hollow clan was led by another familiar name -- Kilrogg Deadeye. It was from the loss of his eye that the clan was named.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:25:07 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
   Firetree is a troll tribe; I don't remember the specfics.

Alleria's full name is Alleria Windrunner, sister to Vereesa and Sylvanas Windrunner... ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:36:53 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
Destromath
Dethecus
Gorefiend
Skywall
Suramar

:) You're the bomb dizzle, Cayizzle!


Destromath was a Pit Lord of no true note, I believe, and Dethecus was a Dreadlord of the same ignoble fate.

Gorefiend is the surname of Teron Gorefiend, a Death Knight that rode with the Horde during the second war, around the same era as the clans I mentioned earlier.

Skywall is an elemental... "land" of sorts, obviously centered around the element of air.

Suramar was an ancient city of the Night Elves, I think.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:43:26 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
   The Bonechewer clan was a very savage orc clan around the second war that adorned themselves with bones and were said to be cannibals. They were led by Tagar Spinebreaker (whoop, another realm name!).

Bloodscalp is a Troll tribe that can be found around Stranglethorn Vale, for example. ;)

Perenolde is the surname of the nobles who ruled Alterac. They are still around, but are not quite as noble as they perhaps once were... ;)

Gorgonnash was another Pit Lord who served with the Burning Legion. No one quite as notable as Mannoroth or Magtheridon, however.

Lightning's Blade is another Orc clan, though I can't remember much about them, honestly. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:45:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
so whats perenolde? and uldum


Uldum is an ancient bastion similar to Uldaman, created by the Titans. You can find its doors in southern Tanaris.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:58:55 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
Garona was a half-orc half-human who was working for Lordaeron while secrectly working for the Shadow Council.


Bingo.

And Kelthanius, I already answered you. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:03:32 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
wut r a arthas and a uther???


*blink*

Er.

Arthas, son of King Terenas Menethil, was training to be a Paladin of the Silver Hand under Uther the Lightbringer. Tragedy befell his beloved homeland of Lordaeron, however, and he trekked ever northward to exact vengeance upon the fiends who began the accursed plague that poisoned his people. In order to ensure his victory, he took hold of the blade Frostmourne...

...and if you want to know the whole story, you should really play Warcraft III. ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:08:28 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
   Nathrezim is the term for a Dreadlord, such as Varimathras.

And Megazulani, I honestly don't know. I'm sure there's an explanation for it, but it's not in my lexicon of a brain.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:26:57 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
I'll bet aggramar is some kind of elvish thing :(


How about a Titan, formerly Sargeras' lieutenant? :D
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:31:17 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
May I ask, what is Ursin and Deatheroc?


Detheroc was answered in another thread -- one of the Nathrezim who palled around frequently with Varimathras and Balnazzar.

Ursin was one of the founders of the "Druid of the Claw" sect of Druids, as I recall.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:38:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
since cay's in a lore mood, ill go with my servers too :D

I know llane was a king of some land (lordaeron? cant remember...)and got killed by garonna, but what about kalecgos (a dragon?) and shadow moon?

Also, to one of the previous posters, what the hell is that thing about elune taking over the world


Kalecgos is a blue dragon, as evidenced by the name. (I believe he's in the manga.)

Shadow Moon is, in fact, the name of Ner'Zhul's clan, back when he was a living, breathing chieftain. ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 8:34:16 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
Because some of them mean nothing...


They all have a meaning of some kind. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:13:02 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
   Magtheridon was a Pit Lord who squatted upon a large portion of Outland, tormenting the Draenei there and coaxing more and more demonkind through the destructive portals therein.

The Laughing Skull clan was a clan of Orcs led by Mogor the Ogre around the time that Durotan, Thrall's father, led the Frostwolf clan; they had a reputation among the clans of being treacherous.
- Caydiem -
/moo
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:17:55 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
What's Bleeding Hollow then?


Another clan of the Horde around the same time period. In truth, they earned many accolades in the second war and evaded capture by the Alliance, escaping back to their corrupted homeland of Draenor for a time. The Bleeding Hollow clan was led by another familiar name -- Kilrogg Deadeye. It was from the loss of his eye that the clan was named.
- Caydiem -
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:25:07 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
   Firetree is a troll tribe; I don't remember the specfics.

Alleria's full name is Alleria Windrunner, sister to Vereesa and Sylvanas Windrunner... ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:36:53 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Destromath
Dethecus
Gorefiend
Skywall
Suramar

:) You're the bomb dizzle, Cayizzle!


Destromath was a Pit Lord of no true note, I believe, and Dethecus was a Dreadlord of the same ignoble fate.

Gorefiend is the surname of Teron Gorefiend, a Death Knight that rode with the Horde during the second war, around the same era as the clans I mentioned earlier.

Skywall is an elemental... "land" of sorts, obviously centered around the element of air.

Suramar was an ancient city of the Night Elves, I think.
- Caydiem -
/moo
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:43:26 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
   The Bonechewer clan was a very savage orc clan around the second war that adorned themselves with bones and were said to be cannibals. They were led by Tagar Spinebreaker (whoop, another realm name!).

Bloodscalp is a Troll tribe that can be found around Stranglethorn Vale, for example. ;)

Perenolde is the surname of the nobles who ruled Alterac. They are still around, but are not quite as noble as they perhaps once were... ;)

Gorgonnash was another Pit Lord who served with the Burning Legion. No one quite as notable as Mannoroth or Magtheridon, however.

Lightning's Blade is another Orc clan, though I can't remember much about them, honestly. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:45:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
so whats perenolde? and uldum


Uldum is an ancient bastion similar to Uldaman, created by the Titans. You can find its doors in southern Tanaris.
- Caydiem -
/moo
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 6:58:55 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Garona was a half-orc half-human who was working for Lordaeron while secrectly working for the Shadow Council.


Bingo.

And Kelthanius, I already answered you. :P
- Caydiem -
/moo
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:03:32 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
wut r a arthas and a uther???


*blink*

Er.

Arthas, son of King Terenas Menethil, was training to be a Paladin of the Silver Hand under Uther the Lightbringer. Tragedy befell his beloved homeland of Lordaeron, however, and he trekked ever northward to exact vengeance upon the fiends who began the accursed plague that poisoned his people. In order to ensure his victory, he took hold of the blade Frostmourne...

...and if you want to know the whole story, you should really play Warcraft III. ;)
- Caydiem -
/moo
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:08:28 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
   Nathrezim is the term for a Dreadlord, such as Varimathras.

And Megazulani, I honestly don't know. I'm sure there's an explanation for it, but it's not in my lexicon of a brain.
- Caydiem -
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:26:57 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
I'll bet aggramar is some kind of elvish thing :(


How about a Titan, formerly Sargeras' lieutenant? :D
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:31:17 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
May I ask, what is Ursin and Deatheroc?


Detheroc was answered in another thread -- one of the Nathrezim who palled around frequently with Varimathras and Balnazzar.

Ursin was one of the founders of the "Druid of the Claw" sect of Druids, as I recall.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 7:38:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
since cay's in a lore mood, ill go with my servers too :D

I know llane was a king of some land (lordaeron? cant remember...)and got killed by garonna, but what about kalecgos (a dragon?) and shadow moon?

Also, to one of the previous posters, what the hell is that thing about elune taking over the world


Kalecgos is a blue dragon, as evidenced by the name. (I believe he's in the manga.)

Shadow Moon is, in fact, the name of Ner'Zhul's clan, back when he was a living, breathing chieftain. ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/25/2005 8:34:16 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Because some of them mean nothing...


They all have a meaning of some kind. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/31/2005 11:23:08 AM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
If Alleria was a HIGH ELF, and Sylvanas is obviously a NIGHT ELF, how are they sisters?

What race is the third sister?


Sylvanas was a High Elf, the Ranger-General of Quel'Thalas.
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/31/2005 11:32:55 AM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
How come she's a night elf in the Undercity? I can spot those ears anywhere. ;)


*waves hand* Those are not the ears you're looking for.

Seriously, though, I'm not positive why she appears quite as she does in the game; lore-wise, however, she is indeed a former High Elf, and that hasn't changed.

Maryanne, the pseudolore reason could easily be that they got better at cartography as the years passed.

Also, remember that many cities with the same name were razed early on, and thus may have changed location. In Warcraft I, for example, the Orcs are ordered to destroy the twin cities of Goldshire and Moonbrook.

However, in all honesty it was probably a question of game mechanics. Stratholme would not have been welcome on the Undead newbie's doorstep, for example. ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/31/2005 12:00:30 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
Cay,

Garona a part of Laughing Skull originally, or am I crazy?

Thanks.


I don't recall her clan affiliation; only that she was loyal to Gul'dan. It would make perfect sense that she was in Laughing Skull, since they had a reputation for having the best rogues and assassins amongst the clans and that group was loyal to Gul'dan as well.
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/1/2005 11:56:34 AM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
Anyone know about Terenas?


King Terenas Menethil was the father of Arthas and Celia Menethil, oft-termed as the last true King of Lordaeron. His tomb can be found in the city's ruins, past the throne room.

[ post edited by Caydiem ]


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Poster: Caydiem at 9/2/2005 2:40:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon
  

Q u o t e:
So why haven't the Forsaken raised him as Undead and put him to work? ;)


I believe he was cremated, though I'm not positive. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/31/2005 11:23:08 AM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
If Alleria was a HIGH ELF, and Sylvanas is obviously a NIGHT ELF, how are they sisters?

What race is the third sister?


Sylvanas was a High Elf, the Ranger-General of Quel'Thalas.
- Caydiem -
/moo
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/31/2005 11:32:55 AM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
How come she's a night elf in the Undercity? I can spot those ears anywhere. ;)


*waves hand* Those are not the ears you're looking for.

Seriously, though, I'm not positive why she appears quite as she does in the game; lore-wise, however, she is indeed a former High Elf, and that hasn't changed.

Maryanne, the pseudolore reason could easily be that they got better at cartography as the years passed.

Also, remember that many cities with the same name were razed early on, and thus may have changed location. In Warcraft I, for example, the Orcs are ordered to destroy the twin cities of Goldshire and Moonbrook.

However, in all honesty it was probably a question of game mechanics. Stratholme would not have been welcome on the Undead newbie's doorstep, for example. ;)
- Caydiem -
/moo
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Poster: Caydiem at 8/31/2005 12:00:30 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Cay,

Garona a part of Laughing Skull originally, or am I crazy?

Thanks.


I don't recall her clan affiliation; only that she was loyal to Gul'dan. It would make perfect sense that she was in Laughing Skull, since they had a reputation for having the best rogues and assassins amongst the clans and that group was loyal to Gul'dan as well.
- Caydiem -
/moo
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/1/2005 11:56:34 AM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Anyone know about Terenas?


King Terenas Menethil was the father of Arthas and Celia Menethil, oft-termed as the last true King of Lordaeron. His tomb can be found in the city's ruins, past the throne room.

[ post edited by Caydiem ]


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Poster: Caydiem at 9/2/2005 2:40:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: What is Magtheridon *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
So why haven't the Forsaken raised him as Undead and put him to work? ;)


I believe he was cremated, though I'm not positive. :P
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