Poster: Kelgann at 6/9/2005 3:13:07 PM PDT
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So, we all know you guys play horde by now.
Cay, youre a horde druid, so im sure youre fighting tooth and nail to keep your overpowered travel form with the flag, while making sure paladins get nerfed every patch.
Enoylx, you have a shaman alt you enjoy playing very much, i understand, so im guessing its your job to make sure none of the threads and suggestions regarding shaman nerfing get passed to the developers.
Will we ever get CM's that play alliance? Doubtful.
Will shaman continue to get godmode? Most likely, due to Caydiem and Enoylx.
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 3:30:00 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem & Enoylx neglecting their jobs... |
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Tyren and Ordinn play Alliance.
We give the developers your feedback, not our own. They know your thoughts on Druid travel form and Shaman ghost wolf in Warsong. The design team holds the belief that the current abilities are fine, but they are continuing to monitor the situation.
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 5:49:28 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem & Enoylx neglecting their jobs... |
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Q u o t e:
Interesting that the CS reps are so out out of touch with the game that they are suppose to support.
Caydiem, you and the desing team are so out of touch. Shaman travel form (folks can correct me if I'm wrong) is the end all and be all of the CTF PvP instances. To the point that I've seen horde players not use it. I am not familiar with the druid travel form, but I do know that if it has the same abilities (run with the opposing team flag) there are limitations. Shaman can pretty much chain cast earth totems (not withstanding heals) and can travel form back to their base with the flag and win. Not comparing this to the AV battlegrounds, but it has a major impact to warsong gulch. Horde is the only faction that can do this. You can talk about how much your CS teams plays the game, but your comments prove you are out of touch.
Corrections could include increasing the mana costs of totems for shaman, adding a time delay to totem casts, or making travel form drop the flags like pretty much every other class ability does. But to sit here and say that it is "working as designed" is just a slap in the face and proves your are more out of touch with the game that you realize.
*flame on*
I've been playing in three Warsong Gulch brackets, to give you an idea: 31-40, 41-50, 51-60. Now, admittedly, I am playing a 40, a 50, and a 60 respectively. The 40 is a Shaman and the 60 is a Druid, so let's discard those for now and focus on the level 50 I've been using: an Alliance Rogue.
Now, I don't have Shaman on my side. In fact, I rarely have Druids on my team. Most times my side consists of Hunters, a couple Warriors, a couple Paladins and perhaps one Mage. I'm not playing offense, either -- I play defense.
It's a rare event that any invading force leaves the flag room alive. With use of traps and a good, solid defense with teamwork, the Horde stands little chance. I've withstood an onslaught of three Shaman. I've had a Shaman get out of the base with the flag, going off in Ghost Wolf -- and I caught them. It is not an infallible ability. It makes them run fast, yes, but during that time they can't do anything else to you -- cast spells, drop totems, etc.
Rogues can Sprint twice with Preparation, which will take them fairly far from your base, particularly if the speed boost was up.
Mages can Frost Nova, Polymorph and Blink, a devastating combination if used by a canny player.
There are more ways to run the flag than just those two forms. As someone who ran Warsong about fifty times with each character on Test and is continuing to play little else but Warsong now that it's live, I assure you I'm very experienced with these forms in play. It is my personal opinion -- I am not a developer, remember -- that they are fine currently. They're able to be countered. Divine Shield is not. Therein lies the difference.
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 5:56:53 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem & Enoylx neglecting their jobs... |
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Q u o t e:
Caydiem why not try a 60 paladin in Warsong? And let us know how you do.
Every character I have has been legitimately levelled. Contrary to what some may believe, I cannot "cheat" up a character on live realms.
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 6:24:05 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem & Enoylx neglecting their jobs... |
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Now thats the biggest lie That has came out of your mouth.
I KNOW how things work on the inside. Been there, done that.
It's the truth, regardless of what you may believe.
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/10/2005 12:25:58 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem & Enoylx neglecting their jobs... |
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Rexed, my Rogue has caught every single Shaman that tried to take the flag. Not one has gotten away. I use poisons and position myself in such a manner that they're not getting out of the flag room.
It's all about using the people you have and working together. :)
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/10/2005 1:44:20 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem & Enoylx neglecting their jobs... |
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You've been given the answer to why Divine Shield and Ice Block don't work as opposed to the other abilities you named several times. They have no counter. The other class abilities you listed do.
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/10/2005 2:25:23 PM PDT
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Eyonix and Fangtooth -- those keeping tabs on the Mage and Priest forums respectively -- will update you when something new is coming your way. That's all I can give you for the moment.
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