Poster: Crasstrick at 4/23/2006 2:24:52 PM PDT
Subject: Blame "raiding resto" druids for our problems |
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Raiding resto druids are pretty quiet on these boards. Most of them come to post/brag about crit heals or "My rejuv ticks for ****". Most really only play 1 aspect of their class. 99.9% of them cant pvp(without a team of warriors that is)and think its just part of being a druid. They are happy to farm/grind at a snails pace and believe that 31+resto is the true "natural spec" of the class.
These guys dont think the are entitled to being a strong pvp class, being simply a mana battery and a "good healer" makes them feel complete. For these guys the thought of having good healing mixed with decent pvp abilities seems over-powered, its a shame they dont know what holy priests can now do.
For raiding resto druids the class is fine. They see Innervate as a ticket to end-game. And if you dont have it, you really shouldnt be there. They dont want any other druids to have it because at that point, they would have to do more than just heal.
Imagine if Innervate was given to ALL druids at 60 but on a 30min cooldown. Imagine that the new 31 resto talent was an OOC res with a party aura of mana regen and +healing. Wouldnt this solve alot of OUR issues with OUR class. Would this be over powered? I cant seem to find an arguement on why it would. Would this create demand for druids of differant specs and allow us to be the hybrid class we are meant to be? I think so.
Resto druids would NEVER support this kind of change. Even tho they still get turned down on 5mans over priest/paladins/shaman, a change like this wouldnt secure them a spot in raids like having innervate does now. They would have to use more skills beyond an innervate button every 6mins and imo this scares some of them.
A change like this would allow a full resto druid to do what he should. Main heal without question. I can main heal with my spec of 30-21 but the love for 100% wipe protection is something a druid cant offer even with 52 points in resto. Do resto druids know that alot new 5-10 content due out soon? Why cant a resto druid do what a ret/prot paladin can do? OOC res isnt an over-powered gift, ya know.
So instead of pushing for change that would allow us to grow into a class that offers so much to raids and end-game. These guys sit on the sidelines talking about rejuv ticks collecting gear they can only use when they /gquit. They dont care about the future of the class and they dont care about other druids. The dont even care that they cant farm or pvp worth a damn. They only care about a secure raid postion.
I really wish some of these guys would speak up of for change. These are the voices that we are lacking. We need them to stop complaining about "greater heal" and start pushing for what druids really need. The ability for ALL druids to use ALL of our skills and not get pigeon-holed into 1 spec/tree.
/off rant[ post edited by Crasstrick ]
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Poster: Coreiel at 4/23/2006 4:12:38 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blame "raiding resto" druids for our prob |
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You would not have them tell you how to play.
Why, then, do you feel that you have the right to tell them how to play?
The beauty of the Druid is in its versatility. Individuals who favor all play styles can find joy in the class. To attack a "raiding restoration" druid for not playing the way you think the class should be played is to do precisely what you complain that they do to you.
It amazes me that the Druid class, of all things, is the one so vehemently against the "live and let live" ideal with regard to playstyle preferences.[ post edited by Coreiel ]
Even yet, I have so many miles to go.
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Poster: Coreiel at 4/23/2006 4:24:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blame "raiding resto" druids for our prob |
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Q u o t e:
It's because most resto's are resto JUST for innervate. I know a lot of them who HATE having to be 31 resto but have no choice. If someone wants to be a dedicated healer thats fine, but a lot of druids are fed up and sick of being forced to be a spec they dont like for one talent they aren't even allowed to use on themselves.
I don't believe this thread was talking about those Druids who are "forced" (I use the term loosely - you are never "forced" to play a certain spec, only peer pressured) into a 31+ Restoration build.
The quotes "They are happy to farm/grind at a snails pace and believe that 31+resto is the true "natural spec" of the class" and "These guys dont think the are entitled to being a strong pvp class, being simply a mana battery and a "good healer" makes them feel complete" led me to believe that we were discussing those druids who truly enjoy a spec built deep into the Restoration tree.
Let's not get sidetracked. If you are "fed up and sick of being forced to be a spec [you] don't like", then stop bending to peer pressure and play the way you want to. It's your USD$15 a month, not your guildmaster's.
Even yet, I have so many miles to go.
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Poster: Coreiel at 4/23/2006 4:12:38 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blame "raiding resto" druids for our prob *edited post* |
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You would not have "raiding resto" druids tell you how to play.
Why, then, do you feel that you have the right to tell them how to play?
The beauty of the Druid is in its versatility. Individuals who favor all play styles can find joy in the class. To attack a "raiding restoration" druid for not playing the way you think the class should be played is to do precisely what you complain that they do to you.
What I'm trying to get at, here, is that spec-bashing is not going to be acceptable on these Forums. Constructive criticism on individual talents, talent trees, or spec concepts as a whole are fair game, and the CMs are here to discuss those with you. However, the moment such a discussion becomes harassment of an individual or group of individuals, the thread becomes moderator territory, and I'd like to make very clear right now that such sentiments won't be tolerated.[ post edited by Coreiel ]
Even yet, I have so many miles to go.
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Poster: Coreiel at 4/23/2006 4:24:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blame "raiding resto" druids for our prob *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
It's because most resto's are resto JUST for innervate. I know a lot of them who HATE having to be 31 resto but have no choice. If someone wants to be a dedicated healer thats fine, but a lot of druids are fed up and sick of being forced to be a spec they dont like for one talent they aren't even allowed to use on themselves.
I don't believe this thread was talking about those Druids who are "forced" (I use the term loosely - you are never "forced" to play a certain spec, only peer pressured) into a 31+ Restoration build.
The quotes "They are happy to farm/grind at a snails pace and believe that 31+resto is the true "natural spec" of the class" and "These guys dont think the are entitled to being a strong pvp class, being simply a mana battery and a "good healer" makes them feel complete" led me to believe that we were discussing those druids who truly enjoy a spec built deep into the Restoration tree.
Let's not get sidetracked. If you are "fed up and sick of being forced to be a spec [you] don't like", then stop bending to peer pressure and play the way you want to. It's your USD$15 a month, not your guildmaster's.
Even yet, I have so many miles to go.
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